Why Florida Will Pound Hawaii

I was out of town all weekend, so I am woefully behind on news and current events. In lieu of anything on Ryan Perrilloux being kicked off LSU’s team or Ryan Mallet having to redshirt at Arkansas (both of which were inevitable, really), I offer you this really early analysis of the Hawaii at Florida game on Labor Day weekend.

Florida will pound Hawaii. It won’t be close. Florida could sit Tim Tebow out for the game and it still would be ugly.

Now, Hawaii’s new head coach A. Nonymous Whatshisface (actually, promoted defensive coordinator Greg McMackin) says the Warriors are not rebuilding and that they plan on playing like the WAC champions they are. He is keeping as much continuity as he can while imposing his personality on the team. He should know how to do this from his previous head coaching job at… Oregon Tech?

Yeah! Goooooo… wait, does Oregon Tech even play football anymore? (answer: no)

Yes, that Oregon Tech. At the very least he has the Warriors convinced they’re a good defensive team, having placed 34th in total defense a year ago. I guess he left out the part about posting that against the 111th rated schedule.

So, back to Florida. The reason the Gators would decimate Hawaii even with one arm tied behind their back is this: the game is taking place east of the Pacific time zone. Hawaii is awful east of the Pacific time zone. To wit, here are Hawaii’s last several games played in the Mountain time zone or farther east against notable teams:

  • Georgia 41 – Hawaii 10 (2007) – In fairness, Georgia was really good the second half of last year
  • Boise State 41 – Hawaii 34 (2006) – Boise did break through to the BCS, so props for a close game
  • Alabama 25 – Hawaii 17 (2006) – Bama went 6-6 and fired its coach in 2006
  • Michigan State 41 – Hawaii 14 (2005) – MSU went 5-6 and nearly fired its coach in 2005
  • Boise State 69 – Hawaii 3 (2004) – Sure Boise went 11-1 that year, but look at that score!
  • UTEP 51 – Hawaii 20 (2004) – UTEP was only 8-4 that year; not a juggernaut or anything
  • Rice 41 – Hawaii 29 (2004) – This was no miracle year for the Owls; Rice went 3-8, but one of those three was a demolition of a Hawaii team that beat Northwestern at home the same season

If you go even farther back, you find losses at Boise State, USC, BYU, Michigan State, and Navy as well as a 5-point win over a 4-7 Rice team in 2002. The wins in this category are generally over bad teams like Louisiana Tech, Utah State, and Idaho.

The pattern with the Hawaii Warriors is pretty clear: if they go east of the Pacific time zone and play anyone with a pulse, they get smoked. The close games were against a conference rival they knew well (Boise State) and against a lifeless Alabama team with an atrocious offense. They even lost to a normal (read: pitiful) Rice team by two scores.

The travel involved from the islands to the mainland must be killer, so its understandable to a degree. However, when Cam Newton is playing target practice in the late third quarter on August 30th, don’t say you weren’t warned.

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13 Responses to Why Florida Will Pound Hawaii

  1. Mike Stosh says:

    The bottom of many big BCS conferences are simply awful. Careful when you blame the WAC for that trait when the bottom of the Big Ten, the Big 12 and most east coast conferences bite too. Hawaii and Boise State has feasted on such BCS bottom dwellers and so has Fresno State. Kansas State just paid Fresno State hundreds of thousands in penalty fee monies to cancel their game with Fresno at Kansas State. Fresno goes away to Rutgers instead. Now that is sad for both Kansas State and their conference. Boise State beats Oklahoma, Hawaii creams Arizona State, Alabama, Cincinnati, Michigan State, Purdue, Washington and the list goes on and on. Stop the Hawaii bashing. Michigan State and Texas pay Hawaii to chicken out of their games with Hawaii. The Warriors will go 8-5 this year after a slow start, re-build and go to a Bowl Game. They will get back to the BCS. BCS schools are too chicken to play WAC powerhouses away. It is that simple. You list your reasons why and those reasons will still be covered in feathers. Chicken feathers.

  2. year2 says:

    I would love to see more games between top schools. I would love to see teams like Hawaii, Boise State, and Fresno State get ample chances to prove themselves against the traditional powers.

    Partially, it doesn’t happen because of the BCS. Since only two teams get to play for a championship, the system rewards teams for being risk-averse. Teams schedule one decent non-conference team, because you generally won’t get voted into the title game without one nice-looking out of conference game, and then raid the bakery for the rest. Don’t like it? Complain to the anti-playoff crowd.

    Mostly, traditional powers don’t play at WAC schools because it’s too expensive. The TV money doesn’t make up for the loss of a home game’s ticket revenue and the travel costs are high.

    The Pac 10 schools are right nearby, complain to them the way that Southern Miss, Troy, UCF, and others in the east complain about eastern powers not playing them in their homes. Once you’re done complaining, draw up a business case as to why it makes sense to have BCS schools make frequent trips to WAC home stadiums and call me back.

    Big time college football is a business, and nothing speaks louder than green visages of dead presidents.

  3. Mike Stosh says:

    Hamilton on the $10 bill was not a President. Neither was Franklin on the $100 bill. Green yes, Preisdents? No.

    The bottom of many big BCS conferences are simply
    awful. Careful when you blame the WAC for that trait
    when the bottom of the Big Ten, the Big 12 and most
    east coast conferences bite too. Hawaii and Boise
    State has feasted on such BCS bottom dwellers and so
    has Fresno State. Kansas State just paid Fresno State
    hundreds of thousands in penalty fee monies to cancel
    their game with Fresno at Kansas State. Fresno goes
    away to Rutgers instead. Now that is sad for both
    Kansas State and their conference. Boise State beats
    Oklahoma, Hawaii creams Arizona State, Alabama,
    Cincinnati, Michigan State, Purdue, Washington and the
    list goes on and on. Stop the Hawaii bashing. Michigan
    State and Texas pay Hawaii to chicken out of their
    games with Hawaii. The Warriors will go 8-5 this year
    after a slow start, re-build and go to a Bowl Game.
    They will get back to the BCS. BCS schools are too
    chicken to play WAC powerhouses away. It is that
    simple. You list your reasons why and those reasons
    will still be covered in feathers. Chicken feathers.

  4. year2 says:

    Why are you repeating yourself? I read all that the first time.

  5. Mike Stosh says:

    Georgia Tech 28, Fresno State 40. Georgia Tech beaten badly on a neutral field away from the south by a WAC team, Oh, yea, we’re talking December 2007. Last year. Some SEC schools do have courage to play WAC power teams away. Congrats and thank you for your courage.

  6. year2 says:

    1. That was a bowl game, not a regular season game. It was set up by bowl tie-ins, not the two schools deciding to play a regular season match.

    2. The guaranteed TV money for the game due to the fact it is a bowl game and the fact it has bowl payout makes it worthwhile for GT to play the game.

    3. Georgia Tech is in the ACC, not the SEC.

    4. I don’t know what you’re trying to prove with this piece of information. It doesn’t change the fact that Hawaii hasn’t beaten a name school outside the islands or Pacific time zone, or the fact that it makes no monetary sense for teams in the SEC to play WAC teams away from home.

  7. Mike Stosh says:

    Please set up the same scenario for Florida displaying their individual game record over the last five years playing against PAC 10 or WAC teams in the far west? Fllorida has no courage to play out west in order to establish some kind of point that you harp on here. No courage. Just chicken feathers. Thanks for the banter.

  8. Mike Stosh says:

    Interesting that Hawaii beat every single team that you have listed above in Hawaii with the exception of Georgia which like Florida is too chicken to play Hawaii in Hawaii. Every team you listed above Hawaii has beaten at home except Georgia. You try to label them as inferior. Every team that has been in the Top 25 over the last several years has been formidable at home. Stop the Hawaii bashing.

  9. year2 says:

    1. Florida doesn’t play out west. It plays another BCS school every year (FSU) and sometimes Miami. The other non conference games are fund raisers to pay for the entire rest of the athletics program other than men’s basketball.

    2. Hawaii still did not beat those teams outside the islands. The original point still stands.

  10. Boisebob says:

    Florida has the luxury of not playing out west but it also hurts their reputation. Florida fans should not be critical of west coast teams who struggle when they play in the east unless they too travel regularly to play in the west. No one is impressed when Florida wins big at home. They are supposed to. Now it would be impressive if Florida went to a top team in the west and won there, But their is no visible courage or desire to do just that.

  11. year2 says:

    I would love to see Florida schedule home and home series with western teams like how Georgia, LSU, and Tennessee have. UF isn’t scared of doing that, I just think the school feels pressure that if it’s going to play a non-conference BCS school other than FSU then it has to be Miami.

    It’s a different situation in the east where three major conferences (SEC, ACC, Big East) have roughly the same geographic area. There’s only two major conferences in the entire country west of the Mississippi.

  12. AZState says:

    Florida should pound every team it plays at home. That is not news. How would it fare playing at Hawaii? Alabama barely beat them at home and lost to Hawaii in Honolulu.
    You will be facing a Hawaii team that lost it’s Heisman finalist quarterback and all of it’s NCAA leading receivers. All of them. If you do not pound them as you do every team that plays at Florida, you’ve got problems. Hawaii beat us in the Sheraton Bowl season before last. I hope we never play them again.

  13. year2 says:

    The Alabama teams that played Hawaii were not very good.

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